The Fantastic Four’s fifth member, who will be introduced in the MCU’s Phase 5, already made his live-action debut in a 20-year-old deleted scene.

The fifth member of The Fantastic Four‘s titular team already made his live-action debut 20 years before the MCU movie’s 2025 release. The confirmation of The Fantastic Four‘s official MCU cast came with the surprising addition of a generally overlooked member of Marvel’s First Family: The Fantastic Four‘s robot assistant HERBIE. First introduced in the 1977 Fantastic Four animated series as a replacement for the Human Torch, HERBIE made his jump to the comics in 1979, helping the team find Galactus and defend the Earth from the villain.

Previous Fantastic Four movies have ignored a large part of the team’s mythos, including villains like Mole Man and Super Skrull, as well as Sue Storm and Reed Richards’ children, Franklin and Valeria Richards. Likewise, none of the four live-action Fantastic Four movies released so far have featured HERBIE or even acknowledged his existence, whereas the upcoming The Fantastic Four‘s first official image suggests that HERBIE will play a major role in its plot, at least as comedy relief. However, HERBIE’s first live-action appearance actually happened two decades before, only that his cameo was left on the cutting room floor.

A 2005 Fantastic Four Deleted Scene Secretly Introduced HERBIE

In one of the deleted scenes from Tim Story’s 2005 Fantastic Four movie, Sue Storm and Reed Richards head to Reed’s storage room looking for tools to recreate the storm that gave them their powers. At one point, Sue finds a small silver robot with big eyeballs that resembles a Furby, which makes her uncomfortable. This unnamed robot only appears in this deleted scene and no one mentions him afterward, but it’s clear that it’s a reference to one of the Fantastic Four’s robot assistants, HERBIE or HUBERT.

“HERBIE” stands for “Highly Engineered Robot Built for Interdimensional Exploration” and “HUBERT” stands for “Hyper-Ultronic Brain Employing Randomized Tracings.”

HERBIE is the Fantastic Four’s most commonly known robot, but the robot in Fantastic Four‘s deleted scene is almost an exact match for one of HUBERT’s many designs. Like HERBIE, HUBERT was created by Reed Richards to assist him in various tasks, but more specifically to babysit his son Franklin in the absence of his usual babysitter, Agatha Harkness. Both robots are rather weak and disposable, hence why their appearance constantly changes as Reed Richards upgrades the destroyed models with a new version.

HERBIE Owes His MCU Existence To The Fantastic Four’s 1960s Setting

HERBIE’s MCU introduction may only be possible due to The Fantastic Four‘s 1960s setting. Had Marvel Studios decided to set the Fantastic Four’s first MCU installment in the present-day, it’s likely that Reed Richards would have simply designed a disembodied AI system like Iron Man’s JARVIS and FRIDAY, Shuri’s Griot, and Spider-Man’s Karen. But given its retro-futuristic inspirations, the MCU’s The Fantastic Four movie is able to incorporate elements of Marvel Comics’ original vision of the future, which made the team popular in the real-world’s 1960s, and of which the lighthearted HERBIE and HUBERT are perfect examples.