Everything We Know About Marvel’s Original Plan For Avengers 5 Before Replacing Kang With RDJ’s Doctor Doom

Split image of Kang looking sad in quantumania and doom looking angry in fantastic four 2005

Kang the Conqueror was the arch-villain of the MCU’s Multiverse Saga for more than three years before 2024’s San Diego Comic-Con upended the original plan for Avengers 5, switching Kang for Doctor Doom and renaming Avengers: The Kang Dynasty to Avengers: Doomsday. While it isn’t unusual for Marvel to change direction after announcing upcoming MCU releases, the switch-up in the Multiverse Saga’s arch-villain was particularly significant, causing a ripple effect that impacted preceding and upcoming productions. Kang’s cinematic debut in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, for instance, now feels insignificant, despite the post-credits scene teasing the Council of Kangs.

How Marvel Studios intends to deal with this loose end, if it does at all, remains to be seen. Absent any information concerning this narrative, the months following Marvel’s stunning comic-con announcement have at least unearthed several details concerning the original plan for Avengers 5 and the roles of Kang and the titular team poised to face him. As theories and speculation continue to swirl around how Robert Downey Jr.’s Doom factors into the overall Multiverse Saga narrative and individuals like the now-deceased Iron Man, here’s what we know for certain about Marvel’s most significant pivot to date.

Kang Would’ve Been The Main Villain Of The MCU’s Multiverse Saga

Kang The Conqueror Was First Alluded To In Loki Season 1

Kang looking shocked in Ant-Man Quantumania Kang the Conqueror in his blue mask in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania
Kang the Conqueror fuming in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania Kang the Conqueror introducing himself in the Quantum Realm in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania
Kang the Conqueror on his throne in the MCU's Phase 5

Avengers: The Kang Dynasty was first announced at 2022’s San Diego Comic-Con, almost one year after the Kang variant, He Who Remains, debuted in Loki. The announcement followed the Loki season 1 finale revealing that He Who Remains’ variants were primed to stage a multiversal war unless his Sacred Timeline was maintained. He Who Remains ostensibly died at the end of Loki season 1, though his variants would begin to debut in 2023

The first variant to call himself Kang debuted in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, less than one year after Avengers: The Kang Dynasty was announced. Despite being ostensibly killed off by Ant-Man and the Wasp (which proved to be a controversial decision), the post-credits scene then established the true threat to the Multiverse Saga and the presumed stars of Avengers: The Kang Dynasty: the Council of Kangs. Unfortunately, Ant-Man’s threequel grossed just $460 million and remains one of the MCU’s worst-rated movies.

Kang wasn’t initially supposed to be the Multiverse Saga’s big bad until studio executives saw Jonathan Majors in action when working on Loki and Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, prompting them to write him into a starring.

Kang actor Jonathan Majors was subsequently arrested on assault charges in March 2023, casting significant shade over his MCU future. His future was thrown into further disarray when Variety reported in November 2023 that Marvel Studios bosses began discussing a pivot from Kang entirely in September. The report was released at the height of Loki season 2, which culminated in Loki reviving the multiverse and threatening to unleash the multiversal war heralded by He Who Remains.

The writing was on the wall, however, when the Loki season 2 finale showed the TVA switching up its objectives and monitoring the activity of Kang variants across the newly nurtured multiverse. Kang’s fate was left up to debate, however, until San Diego Comic-Con 2024, where it was unambiguously confirmed that the Council of Kangs would no longer be the Avengers’ main foil in Avengers 5. Whether Kang still has a role to play in upcoming MCU releases remains to be seen, but his ephemeral tenure as the MCU’s big bad is decidedly over.

Benedict Cumberbatch Revealed Avengers 5 Originally Involved Doctor Strange

He Revealed That He Was Written Out Of The Movie Following Jonathan Majors’ Departure From The MCU

Benedict Cumberbatch's Doctor Strange in full costume in 2016 Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange holding up one finger in Avengers Endgame
Benedict Cumberbatch in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Benedict Cumberbatch as Stephen Strange in Doctor Strange 2 Doctor Strange using his powers in a poster for the movie.

Kang being written out of the Multiverse Saga’s first Avengers movie seemingly caused some collateral damage. Despite playing a major role in the MCU and being one of the only characters to directly encounter the multiverse, Doctor Strange will not feature at all in Avengers: Doomsday. This was confirmed by Doctor Strange actor Benedict Cumberbatch, who recently opened up about Doctor Strange’s role in the future of the MCU in an interview with Variety and let slip that Doctor Strange would be absent from Avengers: Doomsday, citing “The character not aligning with this part of the story.”

He clarifies that his removal from Avengers 5 followed Jonathan Majors being fired from the MCU, stating that his character does not align with the story being told with Doctor Doom at its center. There are a few repercussions to this development, not least of which being the suggestion that Doctor Strange, despite being a veteran of the franchise, is most likely not going to be an Avenger when they finally reform. It also suggests that Doctor Doom’s sorcery will remain unopposed by the typically more powerful magic-user. That is, at least, until Avengers: Secret Wars.

Avengers 5 Reportedly Would’ve Had Shang-Chi As One Of The Leads

Shang-Chi Hasn’t Been Seen Since His Starring Debut In 2021

Shang-Chi using the Ten Rings in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Shang-Chi protecting Ta Lo in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Shang-Chi and Katy in Ta Lo in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Shang-Chi taking the Ten Rings in the MCU's Phase 4 Xu Wenwu and Shang-Chi fighting with the Ten Rings in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings

Shang-Chi debuted in 2021’s Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, and like many newly introduced MCU heroes, has yet to receive a follow-up movie. This is in stark contrast to superheroes like Spider-Man being granted just a two-year gap between the installments of his first trilogy. At the time of writing, Shang-Chi 2 does not appear on any official Marvel release slate, suggesting his next solo venture might not be for yet another few years, which could arguably risk the character falling out of the MCU zeitgeist.

It’s worth noting, however, that this does not likewise preclude Shang-Chi from playing a key role in Avengers: Doomsday.

This would have at least been averted if he maintained his starring role in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, which Inverse reported was initially supposed to have been as one of the leads. The gulf left by Tony Stark’s death has led many to theorize about which characters will replace him and Steve Rogers as the figureheads of the Avengers. It could have been Shang-Chi, therefore, who filled those shoes.

It’s worth noting, however, that this does not likewise preclude Shang-Chi from playing a key role in Avengers: Doomsday. After all, the aforementioned gulf between his solo appearances necessitates a leading role in the next Avengers movie, much in the same way three Avengers enjoyed just one solo outing before appearing together in 2012’s The Avengers. On the other hand, the same reasons for writing out Doctor Strange may affect Shang-Chi, particularly as Shang-Chi rarely encounters Doom in Marvel Comics.

Avengers 5 Story Setup That Now Leads Nowhere

Two Marvel Productions Are Significantly Affected

Jonathan Majors as the central members of the Council of Kangs - Immortus, Rama-Tut, and Scarlet Centurion
Jonathan Majors' Kang the Conqueror on his throne in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania Jonathan Majors' He Who Remains flanked by Loki (Tom Hiddleston) and Sylvie (Sophia Di Martino) in Loki season 1. A Kang the Conqueror statue in the Loki season 2 premiere Jonathan Majors as Victor Timely standing in the TVA in Loki Season 2 Episode 4

The biggest loose end left by the pivot from Kang to Doom is in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania‘s post-credits scene. While Marvel Studios could have more easily gotten away with cutting Kang loose after one variant’s defeat at the hands of Ant-Man and the Wasp, the looming threat of the Council of Kangs now remains one of the biggest cliffhangers for Marvel Studios to address. This could either be addressed in Avengers: Doomsday, or become the latest addition to the growing list of MCU post-credits scenes that went nowhere.

Thankfully, it appears as though the MCU was able to quit before it was too late, as only a handful of movies in the Multiverse Saga have thus far addressed or dealt with the multiverse itself.

It also leaves He Who Remains’ threat rather toothless in the end. While Loki remains one of the most highly regarded MCU shows, the previously nailbiting stakes it presented with He Who Remains’ variants are now significantly diminished by the fact that Kang’s most threatening assault since was confined to the Quantum Realm and summarily quashed by just two Avengers. At the same time, Loki has seemingly provided the answer to Kang’s absence by having the reformed TVA seek out and suppress Kang variants before they can cause concern.

Thankfully, it appears as though the MCU was able to quit before it was too late, as only a handful of movies in the Multiverse Saga have thus far addressed or dealt with the multiverse itself. This has confined Kang to just two major MCU productions, and while their respective plots may have been negatively affected by his departure, it isn’t as if Kang had much time to become a mainstay villain. Still, despite Doom taking his place at the forefront of the Multiverse Saga, it’s still plausible for Avengers: Doomsday to properly address Kang’s actions thus far.

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