In the cutthroat arena of cable news, where egos clash like thunderheads and ratings are the ultimate scorecard, few partnerships defy logic quite like that of Greg Gutfeld and Dana Perino. When The Five burst onto Fox News screens in July 2011 as a temporary five-week experiment, no one—least of all the network brass—could have predicted that this odd couple would anchor one of television’s most enduring franchises. Gutfeld, the sardonic provocateur with a comedian’s timing and a libertarian’s disdain for the establishment, embodies chaos wrapped in a bow tie. Perino, the poised ex-White House press secretary whose every word is measured like a diplomat’s treaty, radiates unflappable grace. On paper, they’re oil and water: his irreverence a Molotov cocktail to her cool precision. Yet, for over a decade, their on-screen alchemy has turned The Five into Fox’s ratings juggernaut, proving that sometimes, the most electric duos are the ones fate never saw coming. As the show celebrates its milestone in 2025, their story isn’t just about banter—it’s a masterclass in unlikely synergy, the beating heart of a network that’s redefined conservative media.
Greg Gutfeld’s path to Fox stardom was anything but conventional. Born in 1964 in San Mateo, California, he cut his teeth as a self-deprecating humorist, penning articles for Men’s Health and Prevention magazines that poked fun at wellness trends he barely understood. By the early 2000s, Gutfeld had pivoted to television, landing at Fox as a contributor and host of the graveyard-shift oddity Red Eye, where he cultivated a cult following with his deadpan riffs on pop culture and politics. At 47 when The Five launched, Gutfeld was the wildcard: a former Maxim editor with a knack for viral zingers, unafraid to skewer sacred cows on both sides of the aisle. His style—witty, unpredictable, laced with sarcasm—made him a lightning rod. Critics called him a clown; fans hailed him as the anti-pundit, the guy who’d rather roast a politician’s tie than recite talking points. Off-air, Gutfeld’s life was a blend of domestic bliss and creative hustle: married to former model Elena Moussa since 2004, the couple shares a New York apartment and a beloved rescue dog named Gus, whose antics often sneak into Gutfeld’s monologues.
Dana Perino, by contrast, was Fox’s polished gem, a 38-year-old veteran of the Beltway’s inner sanctum. Raised on a ranch in rural Wyoming, she traded hay bales for Harvard’s Kennedy School, earning a master’s in public policy before climbing the ranks in Republican communications. By 2007, Perino had become the youngest White House press secretary in history under President George W. Bush, fielding fire from the briefing room podium with the poise of a fencer—elegant, evasive, always one step ahead. Post-White House, she transitioned seamlessly to Fox in 2009 as a contributor, her calm demeanor and encyclopedic recall making her a go-to for breaking down policy wonkery. At 5 feet tall, Perino commands the screen not through volume but velocity: her insights are scalpel-sharp, delivered with a smile that disarms even the most hostile exchanges. Married to economist Peter McMahon since 1998, she splits time between Manhattan and their Virginia farm, where their late Vizsla, Jasper, once inspired a book on life’s simple joys. Percy’s arrival in 2021 filled the void, a fluffy emblem of Perino’s grounded heart amid the media maelstrom.
The Five was never designed as a vehicle for their duo. Conceived by Fox founder Roger Ailes as a chatty roundtable inspired by The View—but with a conservative twist—the show gathered five rotating voices to dissect the day’s headlines over coffee and quips. It was meant to be a low-stakes filler in the 5 p.m. ET slot, a palate cleanser between The Five and primetime heavyweights like Bill O’Reilly. Gutfeld and Perino were paired at the table’s end not for chemistry, but logistics: as the shortest panelists, they fit the camera frame. “I think I was seated next to Greg because we were the two runts,” Perino later joked during the show’s 10th anniversary special. Their first episodes were tentative: Gutfeld lobbed sarcastic asides at Perino’s earnest policy breakdowns, eliciting polite chuckles rather than fireworks. Behind the scenes, executives eyed the clock, bracing for the experiment’s expiration.
But magic, as they say, happens in the margins. What began as awkward adjacency evolved into a rhythm all their own. Gutfeld’s barbs—playful jabs at Perino’s “tiny stature” or her love of historical trivia—drew out her dry wit, coaxing the diplomat into unscripted ripostes that stunned even her. “Greg helped me come out of my shell,” Perino confessed in 2021. Fresh from the White House’s echo chamber, she defaulted to rote talking points; Gutfeld’s unpredictability forced her to improvise, infusing her commentary with personality. In turn, Perino grounded Gutfeld’s flights of fancy, her composed interjections turning his rants into structured satire. Their interplay became the show’s secret sauce: he’d mock a liberal outrage with exaggerated flair (“It’s like if cats unionized against dogs!”), and she’d pivot seamlessly (“But legally, Greg, the First Amendment…”), creating a dialectic that felt organic, not orchestrated.
Viewers ate it up. By 2012, The Five had shed its trial-run skin, becoming a permanent fixture and Fox’s highest-rated program. The duo’s dynamic was the draw: in an era of echo-chamber outrage, Gutfeld and Perino modeled civil discord—fierce debate without personal animus. Viral moments piled up: Gutfeld’s 2013 Twitter “war” with Perino over follower counts, where he feigned jealousy at her 100,000 milestone; his 2023 nod to her as “the little lady” during a homeless crisis segment, complete with a mock apology for an imaginary cart; their 2021 anniversary toast, where Perino credited Gutfeld for teaching her to “loosen up” while he praised her as the “straight woman” to his clown. Off-air, their bond deepened into genuine friendship. Gutfeld guested on Perino’s podcast, Everything Will Be Okay; she filled in on his late-night Gutfeld!, trading stories over wine. “We’re like siblings,” Gutfeld quipped in a 2024 interview. “I annoy her, she fixes me, and somehow, it works.”
This alchemy didn’t just sustain The Five—it propelled Fox News into a new era. As the network navigated post-2016 turbulence, with Trump’s rise amplifying conservative fervor, Gutfeld and Perino’s balance kept the show accessible. Gutfeld’s sarcasm appealed to the base’s irreverence, while Perino’s gravitas reassured traditionalists wary of the party’s populist turn. Ratings soared: by 2025, The Five averages 3.5 million viewers nightly, outpacing CNN and MSNBC combined in the demo. The show’s success spawned imitators—Outnumbered, Gutfeld!—and fortified Fox’s dominance, pulling in ad dollars from blue-chip brands. Yet, their partnership’s true genius lies in its humanity. In segments on everything from inflation to celebrity scandals, they humanize the abstract: Gutfeld’s tales of dog walks with Gus dovetail with Perino’s ranch anecdotes, reminding audiences that pundits are people, too.
Of course, not everyone’s charmed. Liberal critics decry The Five as a conservative echo chamber, with Gutfeld’s barbs often veering into what they call “mean-spirited” territory. Perino’s Bush-era ties draw fire from the left, while some on the right grumble that her moderation dilutes the message. Internal spats have tested the panel—Geraldo Rivera’s 2023 exit after clashes with Gutfeld and Jesse Watters; Juan Williams’ 2021 departure amid similar tensions. But through it all, Gutfeld and Perino remain the constants, their rapport a stabilizing force. “We disagree plenty,” Perino noted in a 2025 profile, “but we respect the hell out of each other. That’s rarer than you think in this business.”
As The Five hurtles toward its 15th year, Gutfeld (now 61) and Perino (52) show no signs of fading. Gutfeld’s late-night empire expands with book tours and stand-up specials; Perino juggles anchoring America’s Newsroom with her SiriusXM radio gig. Off-screen, their friendship endures—weekend hikes in the Hudson Valley, holiday cards featuring their dogs in matching sweaters. In a fractured media landscape, where tribalism reigns and trust erodes, their story is a quiet rebellion: proof that opposites don’t just attract; they elevate. They were never meant to be friends, but in the unlikeliest of pairings, Greg Gutfeld and Dana Perino didn’t just become colleagues—they became the soul of Fox News, turning ideological sparring into something profoundly American: connection amid the chaos.